The historian,poet,writer,film maker and the pillar of Kamatapur movement Mr. Arup Jyoti Koch |
Interview with the historian,poet,writer,film maker and
the pillar of Kamatapur movement Mr. Arup Jyoti Koch in Rajbanshi Radio program
Kochila Awaj
Kochila Awaj:
There are many organizations demanding Kamtapur some are even political parties
and some are armed outfits, Can’t these organizations be merged together as
their demands are same?
Arup Jyoti Das:
of course they can be united and there are many reasons to make them united but
there is lack of leadership who can be trusted by peoples. Weakness is in our
leaders as they have already lost the faith of people. There must be true
leader who can reach the janagan( Normal public) and make them believe they
will sacrifice whole life for Kamtapur and its peoples rights. The public or
Janagan must believe that the leader will not work behind money. As everyone
knows that normal public of Rajbanshi Community are not matured politically or
they are not aware about their land and their rights and even they don’t know
their own history.
Kochila Awaj: You
have written a history book “ Kamtapur and Koch Rajbanshi Imagination” we have
already gone through the book and “Nalini Ranjan Ray’s Koch Rajbanshi and
Kamtapur- The truth Unveled” there you have mentioned many thing we can read
about “Morang Pradesh” of Nepal but deatail is not given there. Can you explain
us about the Kochland of Nepal?
Arup Jyoti Das:
Thanks for the question as its crystal clear that Koshi River is the last territory
of Kamtapur in the western side as many historians like Edward gait, Hamilton
and others have already written the fact. There are many books in my library
about the “Morang Pradesh”. Koch King Biswa singh first wife was from Morang Pradesh
who had elder son Nar Narayan (Malla Dev). Biswa singh’s Grandfather Hajo
(Father of Hira) had son Kisak who used to live in that area and later he was
killed by some enemies of next territory so there is place in Nepal in Jhapa
District which is called Kichak Badh ( Place where Kishak was Killed- meaning
in Rajbanshi language). There is a place in Nepal Sunsari District which is
Bijayapur, Dharan which is the place where the son of Biswa singh named Bijaya
Narayan reign so its called Bijaypur. There is place named chilahara in Jhapa
District which is the pious place of Koch king Chila Ray (The great Warrior of
The world) and the fort of ChilaRay named Chila Gadh in Jhapa District of Nepal
mentions the history of the Chila Ray’s great territory. Its clear like water
that Koch peoples were the first settler near the bank of Koshi river in west
who had a great territory extending till east upto Burma, North till Tibet,
south till Bay of Bengal.
Kochila Awaj :
What about the Bodoland? You demand Kamtapur but there are some peoples
demanding Bodoland?
Arup Jyoti Das:
There is no any community like Bodo there in Assam. They are actually “Boro” or
Kachari now they say they are “Mech” or “BODO”. Bodo counsil is just 30 years
back and there is no history of Bodo in any books. They are claiming Koch
history as there history now and if they do so why don’t they demand Kochland
or Kamtaland? Koch have ancient history. There are palaces and there were great
kings and rulers. I say “ While constructing your history don’t destroy ours” “You
can write your history with golden letters with golden pen but don’t destroy our
history which was written by the feathers of peacock or pens made of bamboo
stick” . Boro says they are Mech now during 2013 AD what were they doing
before? Why don’t they demand “Mechland” ? so it’s a matter of same if they
claims the Kamtapur history is theirs.
Kochila Awaj: Is “ Kamtapur and Koch Rajbanshi Imagination”
Possible ?
Arup Jyoti Das:
Sure, its 100% possible. Assamese and Bangali literature are recent and they
have gone through maximum height now and even they have claimed Asamese and
Bangali language old literature is reference from Kamatapur Palace of Maharaj
Biswa singh. Komrupi literature or Koch Rajbanshi literature is very old dated
from time unknown and we can get those in ancient monuments and palaces of Koch
kings eg: Maharaja Nara Narayan’s Palace. Even Bengalis claims Maharaja
Narnarayan’s Palace literature is Bangali literature. During 16th
century there were no Bengalis or Assamese. Its just like few years ago I had
planted one mango tree in my home when there were no neighbours, now the plant
have started giving fruits and the branches are scattered, recently two neighbors
on two side of my house settled and both claims this mangoes and mango tree is
theirs from both side and are fighting for that. The real owner its me is quite
and watching them. Same is happening with our Kamtapur , the Assamese says its
theirs and Bengalis says its theirs but we Kamtapuris are quite. Now we have
started to demand our rights and its sure sooner or later we will have Kamtpur.
As its truth that the ownership belongs to us.
Kochila Awaj :
What name can we give to our language? As this language is named surjapuri in
Bihar, kamrupi in Assam, Desi in West Bengal, Gwalpara, Rajbanshi, Tajpuriya,
Gangai, Suri, teli, Bhatiyar, Hadi, Majhi etc in Nepal? Is it Multinomial
language or Must have one name?
Arup Jyoti Das: I
want to go back to our Popular singer Pratima Baruwa’s quotes as she is a queen
of voice and great singer of our community she was asked by Bhupen Hajarika
that which language song you are singing, She said, its “Desi” language as we had
territory and country some days and now we have lost that so it’s the language
of the lost Country so we say “DESI”. If we had country then it would be named “Kamtapuri”
Language. So , I mean to say one person have many pet names in home like I may
be called Arup by many, Beta by my mom, Babu by my father, Dadu by my grandpa
but still I am the same person and same is with our language as it’s the same
but pet names are different as Rajbanshi, Gangai, Tajpuriya, Surjapuriya, Gangai,
mondal , majhi, hadi, Desi etc. how they love to called it they will give it a
new name.
Kochila Awaj: Any
massage to the listeners you want to relay?
Arup Jyoti Das: To get Kochland or Kamtapur our leaders must
go to the Janagan(general Public) individually and make them aware about our
glorious past history, our rights, our lost land and property, Peoples must get
access towards education and must not sell their land then we will get our
state Kamtapur or Kochland. Thanks for everyone .
Jay Kamtapur ! Jay Kochila !
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